Setting up
your patient properly to send claims to
the primary and then to the secondary insurance.
1. Add the primary insurance and mark it as bill insurance automatically
In this example, it is First Heath and the insured is self
2. Add
the secondary insurance and make sure to check the option "bill automatically after primary"
Notice: This is a Medicare secondary. You must put
the reason why Medicare is secondary by using the drop-down menu.
3. Make
sure your insurance company is also set up for electronic billing.
When Medicare is primary, it will send the payer ID, and when it is used as a secondary, the payer ID must also be present in the Payer ID field for the
secondary receiver.
Posting the Primary Insurance Payment
You must post the payment and adjustment to the actual TX Code. You cannot add a line and post the payment as
a line item. It must be posted in one of three ways. Auto posting, insurance payment
posting, or going to detail and post payments.
Ready to transmit your secondary claims using Revenue Management
1. Go to Billing > Revenue Management
> Revenue Management
2. Click
Select >Secondary > ready to send
3. You
will see all your secondaries ready to go.
You see Rcvr2, which means secondary, and you see the receiver . In this case, it is EMCL. Also, notice there is a
check mark in front of the chart number.
This is because the claim has already been processed through the scrubber with the
primary and does not need to be rechecked.
4. Now, click the send button, and it will prepare the claim to get transmitted.
Once you have sent your secondary claim, you can go to Help at the top and click to reset the grids.
What the secondary outbound file looks like shows
the COB information
In this claim case we see the following:
- CLM with the charge amount
of 47.00
- AMT with the total claim
amount paid of 23.00
- We also see the SVD with
the line payment amount of 23.00
- CAS with the adjustment
amount of 5.00
- CAS with the amount
remaining of 19.00 that the secondary insurance should pay
- The COB or coordination of
benefits add up by charges – payment – adjustment = amount remaining
- 47.00-23.00-5.00 =
19.00 This is a clean claim. We do not expect this to be looked at each
time, this is just an understanding of
how they get your EOB in the claim file.
ISA*00* *00* *ZZ*GBA*ZZ*12345678*250923*1237*^*00501*000000001*0*P*:
GS*HC*GBA*GBA*20250923*1237*1*X*005010X222A1
ST*837*0001*005010X222A1
BHT*0019*00*11AAAA*20250923*1237*CH
NM1*41*2*LYTEC
TUTORIAL*****46*GBA
PER*IC*CONNIE
ROMANO*TE*2812108987
NM1*40*2*EMEDIX
CLAIMS*****46*PAYERID
HL*1*1*20*1
NM1*85*2*CENTERTOWN
OFFICES*****XX*1234567890
N3*123 PROFESSIONAL
AVENUE*SUITE 146
N4*SALT LAKE CITY*UT*84124
REF*EI*75123456
PER*IC*DANNY
LITTLE*TE*6035551111
HL*1*1*22*1
SBR*S*18***12****MB
NM1*IL*1*ADAMS*GEORGE*F***MI*8D3B2452AE12D
N3*987 FERRIS STEET
N4*MADISON*WI*93939
DMG*D8*17931212*M
NM1*PR*2*MEDICARE*****PI*PAYERID
N3*3889 FRANKLIN AVENUE
N4*MAIN STREET*WA*02543
CLM*1*47***11:B:1*Y*A*Y*I
REF*X4*45D3221112
HI*ABK:I10
NM1*82*1*LITTLE*DANNY****XX*9876543210
SBR*P*18*432742844376******CI
AMT*D*23
OI***Y*P**I
NM1*IL*1*ADAMS*GEORGE*F***MI*2588545428
N3*987 FERRIS STEET
N4*MADISON*WI*93939
NM1*PR*2*FIRST
HEALTHCARE*****PI*32165
N3*123 INSURANCE
DRIVE*SUITE 123
N4*MADISON*WI*01500
LX*1
SV1*HC:99213:::::OFFICE
VISIT LEVEL 3*47*UN*1***1
DTP*472*D8*20250801
REF*6R*1
SVD*32165*23*HC:99213**1
CAS*CO*45*5
CAS*PR*2*19
DTP*573*D8*20250923
AMT*EAF*19
SE*9999*0001
GE*9999*1
IEA*9999*000000001
Troubleshooting Rejections
1.
Missing payer DOC
control number.
We have been
seeing a few payers requiring the primary payer control number or claim number.
To correct
this go into the billing and click Billing > Bill options > Billing More
information 2 and enter the Original Reference # number in which is your claim
number or control number from the primary EOB. Under the Resubmission # you would enter the number 1.
1 means original claim and 7 is resubmission for a corrected claim. Never put the 7 on the secondary as it is not
a corrected claim but is an original claim. You put the 1 so Lytec will send the control number.
2. COB
invalid or out of balance.
Few things to look at. How you
posted your payment, does it all add up in the billing? If so, please call support so we can correct this for you. Another thing we found is that ICB or take-backs are causing it to fail at the
clearinghouse level.